[WikiLeaks 원본] 뼛속까지 우리 가카는…..

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    eroica 50.***.41.131 3592

    Sunday Morning – Margo Guryan

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    발췌….

    Vice Speaker Lee(명박의 형님) said that President Lee was pro-U.S. and pro-Japan to the core so there should be no questioning President Lee’s vision.
    (뼛속까지…)

    Lee(명박의 형님) said he was concerned that if the beef agreement were finalized to allow imports of U.S. beef to begin entering Korea before the June 4 by-election, it could become the main election issue and cause GNP(한나라당) candidates to lose. This would deal a heavy blow to President Lee.  Therefore, waiting until after the election to finalize the agreement would be helpful.
    (역시 국민의 뜻은 아랑곳하지 않고 뒷구멍으로 쇠고기 협상하며 선거를 위해 미국에 애걸복걸…)

    Lee(명박의 형님) said, was that President Lee has “poor political instinct” since he had not been directly involved in Korean politics for very long.  Worse still, many of President Lee’s close aides had also never run for the National Assembly.

    Chun(전여옥-한나라당 당시 대변인) said her daughter recently returned from study in the U.S. and wondered why there was a debate over U.S. beef.  More Koreans needed to have the chance to go to the U.S. to dispel myths about the U.S. and about U.S. beef, Chun concluded.
    (한나라당-한나라당의 대변인으로서 전여옥이 발언한것이므로-의 촛불시위에 대한 대책은 한국사람들을 미국으로 보내는 것이었었다???)

    Representative Lee(명박의 형님) said that President Lee Myung-bak is pro-U.S. but there are still some pro-DPRK(빨갱이) elements in the press and in business.
    (사실, 국정조사에 의하면 MB는 집권 3년차까지 노무현, 김대중보다 북한에 자금지원을 훨씬 많이 한걸로 밖혀졌다… 그러니 노무현, 김대중정부에 북한에 퍼주기를 했다는둥 x소리는 삼가해주기 바람…)

    * Note: ( )안은 eroica가 추가한 것임… 전체 원문은 아래에…

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    C O N F I D E N T I A L SEOUL 001087
     
    SIPDIS
     
    E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/10/2018
    TAGS: PGOV PREL PINR KN KS
    SUBJECT: LEE SANG-DEUK ON BEEF, PRESIDENT LEE’S MISSTEPS
     
     
    Classified By: Amb. Alexander Vershbow.  Reasons 1.4 (b,d).
     
    ¶1.  (C) SUMMARY: Over a lunch of U.S. beef, the Ambassador
    and Vice Speaker Lee, who is President Lee Myung-bak’s elder
    brother, discussed solutions to the continuing controversy
    over the planned reopening of the Korean market to U.S. beef.
     Vice Speaker Lee and recently reelected lawmaker Chun Yu-ok
    were pessimistic the controversy would subside soon, but
    optimistic that U.S. beef would soon reenter the market.  Lee
    suggested it might be politically better for the Lee
    government to delay the official opening until after the June
    4 by-elections.  If not, a sweeping defeat for GNP candidates
    could damage future ROKG initiatives.  Because progressive,
    anti-American, and pro-DPRK leaders had directed the ROKG and
    the Korean media for the last ten years, it was difficult now
    for President Lee to overcome media bias and well-organized
    leftist groups to resolve the beef issue.  He thought,
    however, the situation would be easier once the
    GNP-controlled National Assembly started its session in June.
     Both the Vice Speaker and pro-MB lawmaker Chun Yu-ok
    acknowledged that President Lee had made some mistakes that
    had contributed to people’s dissatisfaction with his
    Administration.  Most of the President’s missteps they
    attributed to President Lee’s lack of “political instinct.”
    They both also expressed disappointment in Park Geun-hye and
    other conservative leaders for not supporting President Lee
    on beef and other issues.  Lee emphasized that U.S. support
    was key to helping the ROKG overcome the beef problem.  Vice
    Speaker Lee said that President Lee was pro-U.S. and
    pro-Japan to the core so there should be no questioning
    President Lee’s vision.  Ultimately, President Lee would do
    right by the alliance and work well with both the U.S. and
    Japan.  Lee said that the main task in the new National
    Assembly would be to pass the KORUS FTA.  END SUMMARY
     



    BEEF CONTROVERSY



     
    ¶2.  (C) During a pleasant lunch with President Lee’s elder
    brother Lee Sang-deuk, the Ambassador asked if there was some
    way to diffuse the controversy surrounding the reopening of
    the Korean market to U.S. beef.  Vice Speaker Lee explained
    that the “386 generation” focused on anti-American, pro-DPRK,
    pro-Unification policies while younger Koreans are now
    protesting against U.S. beef with a different motive.
    Despite the different motive, the ideology of the 386-ers had
    influenced the young people protesting the reopening of the
    Korean market to U.S. beef imports.  While ten years ago some
    felt that the U.S. was more of an enemy than North Korea, now
    young people are worried about finding a job.  While some
    worry that anti-beef sentiment could spiral into anti-U.S.
    sentiment, Lee thought that once U.S. beef was available in
    Korean stores, anti-beef protests would subside.  Eventually,
    as holdovers from the anti-American/pro-DPRK period
    (1998-2008 Roh Moo-hyun and Kim Dae-jung presidencies) were
    pushed out of positions of power and influence, such issues
    would cease to be big problems.
     
    ¶3.  (C) Lee said he was concerned that if the beef agreement
    were finalized to allow imports of U.S. beef to begin
    entering Korea before the June 4 by-election, it could become
    the main election issue and cause GNP candidates to lose.
    This would deal a heavy blow to President Lee.  Therefore,
    waiting until after the election to finalize the agreement
    would be helpful.  The Ambassador said waiting until after
    the election would damage Korea’s credibility in the U.S.
    Congress since there had already been delays.  Lee replied
    that if there were trust between the governments, one more
    small delay due to real political concerns should not make
    much difference.  Rep. Chun disagreed with Lee and said she
    thought it would be better to keep the current date and start
    beef imports.  Lee conceded that he originally wanted the
    beef market to reopen as quickly as possible so people could
    eat U.S. beef but had changed his mind recently because of
    the potential loss in the by-election.
     



    CONSERVATIVES BACK IN POWER



     
    ¶4.  (C) Lee said the conservatives won the December
    presidential and April National Assembly elections
    convincingly, but some conservatives were disappointed by
    President Lee’s focus on pragmatism at the expense of
    traditional conservative principles.  Due to disappointment
    with Lee, many of the pro-U.S. conservatives, such as Park
    Geun-hye and her supporters, were not interested in helping
    Lee handle his latest crisis.  Representative Chun added that
    conservatives should thank President Lee for succeeding in
    changing the government.  She admitted, however, that Lee
    Myung-bak’s over-emphasis on pragmatism was a mistake, and
    the disappointment of some conservatives was regrettable but
    understandable.
     



    INTRA-PARTY STRUGGLES



     
    ¶5.  (C) Because the April 9 National Assembly elections were
    just 45 days after Lee Myung-bak’s February 25 inauguration,
    the public intra-party struggle was inevitable, Lee lamented.
     Compounding the issue, some Lee Myung-bak supporters had
    tried to monopolize power by dominating the nomination
    process.  Lee said he had put a brake on this movement, which
    led certain GNP lawmakers to sign a petition against his
    nomination.  These people have since apologized, Lee said.
    Chun said some were opposed to Lee Sang-deuk remaining in the
    National Assembly, but because Lee has an important role to
    play, she had defended the choice to nominate Lee.
     
    ¶6.  (C) Lee said that he was meeting traditional conservative
    leaders on behalf of President Lee to try to smooth over
    differences and convince them to support the President.  Both
    Chun and Lee were not optimistic, however, that the pro-Park
    lawmakers could assimilate well into the GNP and support
    President Lee, even if their party membership were
    reinstated.  Chun said that the likely scenario would result
    in President Lee fighting not only the opposition party but
    also the pro-Park lawmakers within the GNP.  Chun said the
    reason she was pessimistic was that the pro-Park lawmakers
    had been critical of the ROKG regarding the beef agreement.
     



    FANNING THE FLAMES OF DISCONTENT



     
    ¶7.  (C) Before President Lee settled into office and “found
    his place,” there was a struggle over nominations and
    controversy surrounding beef, Lee said.  Compounding these
    problems, Lee appointed a group of rich, U.S.-educated Blue
    House senior secretaries and did not understand why Korean
    people would rally against such appointments.  President Lee
    kicked off his term without assessing the situation and
    making concessions as needed.  The reason for this, Lee said,
    was that President Lee has “poor political instinct” since he
    had not been directly involved in Korean politics for very
    long.  Worse still, many of President Lee’s close aides had
    also never run for the National Assembly.  Therefore, neither
    President Lee nor his aides were able to imagine the problems
    that arose.
     



    ROK: PRO-U.S., PRO-JAPAN, NOT PRO-PRC



     
    ¶8.  (C) Lee said that the lack of outrage over the Chinese
    students who attacked some Koreans should not be a worry to
    the U.S. since Lee Myung-bak was not pro-PRC.  There is a
    broad base built up over the decades fighting the
    dictatorships in Korea and supporting pro-DPRK policies, Lee
    said.  USG leaders should realize that it will take time for
    conservatives to unite and overcome this entrenched
    organization.
     
    ¶9.  (C) Chun pointed out that the ROK was closer to the U.S.
    than to China due to recent history and this explained why
    Koreans reacted more vehemently to the beef controversy than
    to the violence by Chinese students.  Chun pointed out that
    conflicts between close friends or family members can be the
    most severe.  Also, the fact that Japan belonged to the visa
    waiver program and the ROK did not contributed to sensitivity
    on all issues American.  Chun said her daughter recently
    returned from study in the U.S. and wondered why there was a
    debate over U.S. beef.  More Koreans needed to have the
    chance to go to the U.S. to dispel myths about the U.S. and
    about U.S. beef, Chun concluded.
     
    ¶10.  (C) The Ambassador said that President Lee was
    respected, more in the U.S. than he was on April 18, when the
    beef agreement was signed, because people now see how
    difficult his decision was in light of the resultant domestic
    opposition.  The Ambassador assured Lee that the USG
    appreciated President Lee’s firm support of the U.S. and that
    the highest levels of the USG, especially President Bush,
    were sensitive to the political situation in Korea and would
    not press for controversial decisions while the situation
    remained difficult.  President Bush said during the summit
    that no issue was a litmus test for the U.S.-ROK relationship
    since the USG understood there were domestic concerns
    influencing the handling of sensitive issues.
     
    ¶11.  (C) Representative Lee said that President Lee Myung-bak
    is pro-U.S. but there are still some pro-DPRK elements in the
    press and in business.  Therefore, the U.S. needs to help
    President Lee until these elements are replaced naturally
    over time.  Some doubted President Lee, but Lee said he knew
    Lee’s fundamental views were pro-U.S. and pro-Japan.
     



    COMMENT



     
    ¶13.  (C) Vice Speaker Lee is considered the most influential
    lawmaker in the National Assembly due to his relationship
    with President Lee and his status as the most senior
    conservative legislator.  The frustration with and criticism
    of his brother, however, reflected an underlying tension
    between the two.  National Assembly sources note that
    President Lee asked his elder brother not to run for National
    Assembly and was hurt when Lee ignored his advice and ran for
    a sixth term.  This could have contributed to President Lee
    ignoring the more politically astute Vice Speaker’s views on
    matters of personnel and politics.  A long-time proponent of
    compromise, Lee has the authority and know-how to help his
    brother address complaints about how he is running the
    country.  The big question is whether President Lee will
    accept the help.
    VERSHBOW

    • AAA 66.***.2.220

      에로니까 꼭 어디서 허접한 글만 퍼온다니까….^^

      그런데 너 한국이지?
      니가 글 올린 시간은 왜 예외없이 항상 10:00 pm 근처니?
      너 알바 시작시간이니?

      또라이 같은 새끼.

      • 오사카쥐박이 218.***.17.65

        AAA? 로마리오? 똘추 새끼야

        니가 또라인데 어디서 또라이를 찾아

        야 씹새야

        넌 지역 어딘데

        남이 말하면 우선 쳐 들어 이새끼야 ~~!

        어린새끼야

        후잡떨지 말고

        자신있음 연락까 씹새끼야 / OK?

    • AAA야죽을래? 119.***.255.222

      AAA야 너 무슨 정신병자냐

      남에게 시비 걸지 말고 약이나 쳐먹어

      쥐새끼 마냥

      숨어서 깝치는거 좋아 하는 군 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ

    • ^^ 27.***.203.171

      ◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆

      AAA 참으로 한심한 녀석 보면 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그냥 웃깁니다.

      어쨋거나, 전과 14범 쥐박이가 뒷구멍으로 매국짖 한건 다 알테고 저런놈을 그냥 냅두는 한국의 사법 당국도 문제는 문제입니다.

      전과 14범 쥐박이가 뒷구녕으로 협상한짖이 잘한거라면 반대를 위한 반대 보다는 논리적으로 하나하나 짚어서 반박을 하는것이 훨씬 설득력이 있겟죠.

      그런데 AAA같은 여론조장이나 선동질이나 하면서 반대를 위한 반대를 하려면, 반드시 주장에대한 근거가 있어야 합니다..

      무조건 전과14범 쥐박이가 좋다면서 북한식으로 찬양 하면서 자기 주장만하면, 그게 설득력이 없겟죠..

      분명한건 이명박이 쥐새끼 마냥 뒤구녕으로 협상하고 뻔뻔하게 국민들에게 거짓으로 사기쳤다는 겁니다.…

      생긴것부터 쥐새끼 이지막 역시 하는 짖도 쥐새끼지 않았습니까?

      하지만 요즘 AAA 같은 또라이가 전과14범 쥐박이 찬양을 넘어 어버이 수령으로 섬기는 거 보면

      뒷구녕으로 나라 팔아 먹는 매국짖 조차 잘했다고 주장하는 정신병자 집단 뉴라이트 극우 매국노들이 난무하는 세상이 되었고,

      왜 전과 14범 쥐박이가 뒷구녕으로 몰래 나라 팔아 먹는 짖조차 못보고, 무조건 쥐새끼 이명박에게 동조하는 정신병자 들도 많아지게 되었습니다.

      스스로 정신병자임을 입증하고 싶은 환장한 AAA 같은 놈을 그냥 방치하면 그사회의 모든 구성원을 병들게 만듭니다.

      AAA 같은 싸이코 쥐새끼들이 늘어나면 늘어날수록, 한국이 망하는 날이 가까와 지겟죠.

      ◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆◆

    • AAA 66.***.2.220

      10분간격으로 아이피 바꾸면서 계속 글올린 이 또라이는 누굴지 알거 같은데?
      한국이 왜 망하니 이 호로새끼야…

      그리고 전화번호를 올려야 연락을 까든지 말든지 하지?^^^
      개 호로새끼.

    • 정치방으로 151.***.235.9

      계속 이런글 올리는 놈들은 뭔가 의도적으로 정치 공세를 펴는게 분명하다.

      옆에 정치방에서 도배를 하든 하지 왜 이곳에서 설치는가?

      재미도 없고 신물나니 옆방으로 가거라 빙신같은 원글아.

    • 동감 99.***.93.88

      eroica 여사님 정중히 부탁드립니다. 정치방에서 마음껫 의견을 개진하시기 바랍니다.

    • eroica 50.***.41.131

      생각해 보니까 제가 원글을 올린 이유를 말씀을 안드렸군요…

      사실은 며칠전에 이곳에 어느분이 올린 posting에 달린 댓글 중에 이런게 있더라구요…


      ???? 11-09-22 18:37 72.♡.246.34 답변 삭제
      요글도 슬그머니 이상득 의원의 말을 바꾸어서 선동하고 있군요.
      설마 이상득의원이 “”이명박 대통령은 뼛속까지 친미 친일이니 그의 시각에 대해선 의심할 필요가 없다” 라고 말햇을까..
      ……..

      이런식으로 우리 가카를 음해하는 글을 보고 그냥 지나치면 안될것 같아 진실을 알리고자 원글을 올렸습니다… 정치적의도가 아닌 진실규명 차원에서 올린 글이니 너무 흥분하시지 마시고요…

      앞으로도 우리 가카에 대해 거짓과 음해를 일삼는 글이 올라오면 그때마다 제힘이 닿는데까지 진실을 밝히도록 노력하겠습니다… ;-)

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