Home Forums Job & Work Life 역시 트럼프도 그렇게 막 나가진 않네요. – Wall street jounal interview 역시 트럼프도 그렇게 막 나가진 않네요. – Wall street jounal interview Name * Password * Email Have you watched what happened in this election??? I'm not sure why Obama - who's not an immigrant but a black person (half actually) - being elected twice has anything to do with what I said, but I'll try to answer your question assuming you're actually talking about the racism in general in this country. Obama in 2008 got elected by +12% margin when Bush/Republicans almost bankrupted this country. Do you still remember meltdowns and mass layoffs? My dog could have won in that election if he were the Democratic nominee. BTW, let's not forget there were indeed racist elements in that campaign, although most of them were disguised. Obama being secret socialist who wants to "redistribute wealth", questioning his faith (him being secret Muslim), the fact he used to be a community organizer in S. Chicago hood...These attacks were based on thinly veiled racism - they would not be any attacks at all if mounted on a white candidate. Look at Bernie Sanders this year. He's a confirmed socialist (not even a Democrat) and people LOVED! And also remember immigration at the time wasn't simply that important - we had two wars, and the country was heading to bankruptcy. In 2012, Obama won by +4% against Romney, the standard-issue candidate from GOP. Romney actually won the majority of the Whites (both men and women). That's kind of compensated by strong Black support in key areas, and support from other minorities and that support was just big enough for him to win. Remember, Romney himself didn't rile up the base and inflame racism, so he's looked at as just "one of those" Republican establishment figure. So there were no excitement factor in terms of White turnout. How about immigration? In that year I expected immigration would be a key issue, but I was wrong. Both Obama and Romney had essentially the same position in immigration, although Romney had to "harden" GOP position to appease Tea-Partiers. (Basically pathway to citizenship vs Romney's famous 'self-deportation' policy). BTW, at that time around 2012, Republican party was experiencing a deep fracture because of the immigration and other social issues. The populist base - ethnic White Christian solidarity - began to collide with the party establishment who wanted to expand the party with minority outreaches. The White Christian base saw this as the party establishment just selling out to big corporations and international money interests looking for cheap labors and profits. And the fracture deepened to the point where the sitting Republican Speaker of the House (John Boehner) had to resign. Fast forward to 2016 and enter the Donald Trump - a joke candidate who is also the best known Birther. He descended down the escalator at his Trump Tower and announced his candidacy by delivering a speech in which he said Mexicans are rapists and murders. And he's going to build a wall along the Mexico border. This is the most shocking anti-immigrant and racist speech at the time. Media reported this incident as a kind of joke - rightfully so - but that exact racist statements began to capture votes. And the rest is history. I also want to say Hillary Clinton won the popular vote this year. The margin is expected to be around 1.5% - just 2.5% lower than Obama in 2012. So Obama could've lost in 2012 if, say, Russians and FBI meddled in the 2012 race. So Obama being elected twice doesn't mean at all that this country finally overcame racism, nativism, and xenophobia. And quite contrary, the race of 2016 and the election of Donald Trump is the proof that the White majority in this country doesn't want to lose the majority status, and doesn't want to see any more non-whites coming and diluting ethnic composition in this country. I agree to the terms of service Comment