음모론이 아니라 음모론적 팩트

  • #105046
    uksl 91.***.81.202 4688

    밑에 글들을 대강 읽어보니 음모론에 대해서 아직도 뚱하고 계신분들이 많은거같아 한마디 하고 지나칩니다

    우리가흔히 음모론으로 간주하는 많은썰들이 사실은 그냥썰이 아닌 팩트라는것을 아직도 모르고 계시는 순진한 양반들이 많아서요

    저도 반신반의 하다가 관심갖고 살펴보게된 직접적인 계기가 있었는데 여러분들도 한번 관심갖고 살펴보세요. 전세계를 자기들 손바닥 안에 놓고 움지락펴락 하는 그룹이 분명히 존재합니다. 보통 엘리트그룹이라고 하는데요, 미국도 머지않아 엘리트들의 농간에의해 유럽과 같은 소셜리스트사회가 될겁니다. 겉으로는 무상교육 무상배급 무상의료제도를 실시하는듯 보이겠지만 이유가 있습니다. 시간이없어서 오늘은 여기까지 하고요 미국에 계신분들에게 제일 해드리고 싶은말은 미국달러 아무 힘없습니다. 세계정치무대에서 미국은 중국과 러시아에게 밀리고 있는게 지금현실입니다. 콧방귀내셔도 소용없습니다. 현실을 받아들이지 못하고 더나은 경제와 더나은 미래를 꿈꾸시는 분들이 미국에 없길 바랍니다.

    • 교포1.5세 23.***.26.52

      누군지는 몰라도 이렇게 세상물정 아시는분이 이 게시판에도 계신다니 반갑네요. 영어못하는 똥파리라는 애는 9/11이 inside job이라는것이 말도 안된다고 그러덥디다. 몰 보기나하고 그런결론을 내렸는지…아니, 제가 무슨소릴. 알죠 당연히, 아무것도 안보고 모른체 헛소리질하고 다닌다는걸.

      • uksl 91.***.81.202

        오바마의 state of the union 지금 듣고있ㄴ는데 역시나 립서비스작렬이네요 하하사아하하ㅏ핳하 미국사람들은 언변만 좋고 목소리만 크면 그게 맞는거겠거니 하며 착각하나 봅니다. 공부좀 하지….

        • 교포1.5세 23.***.26.52

          세상이 어떻게 돌아가는지 공부하고 관심을가지면 이렇듯 잘 보이나 봅니다. 굿 포유입니다.

          • US citizen 204.***.247.201

            Look.

            His brain is so tiny that little information makes look like he is full of knowledge.

            Question is, whether your brain capacity is better than his.

            Oh, shit.

            Did I say that? lol

      • 911 91.***.81.202

        911때 비행기 하나 관통했다고 그 견고하게 지어진 건물들이 몇십초만에 와르르 힘없이 주저앉는 기괴한 장면을 보고도 아무 의심을 갖지 않았던 사람들이 대부분 이었을 겁니다. 뉴스에서 테러리스트들이 했다니 그런가보다 믿고, 오사마 빈 라덴인지 누군지도 모를 정체불명의 얼굴없는 시신 하나 보여주고 오사마빈라덴이 죽었다고 발표하는것을 아 그런가보다 하고 철썩같이 믿을 한심한 인간들이 넘쳐나니 참 통탄할일입니다.

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          Ok, Neo.

          So, are we talking about ‘Matrix4: dumb and dumber’ hitting movie theaters next?

          Because looks like you are. lol.

          • Dude 166.***.88.172

            Dude you need help. You seem clueless on this conspiracy FACT stuff. I advise you to just shut up if you don’t know about it. Stupid!

            • 미국인밥탱 50.***.196.114

              I know! What a “dumbo”. HAHAHAHA!!!

              “You are a douche” – US citizen –

            • US citizen 204.***.247.201

              I appreciate your effort to write in English, but please stay in Korean because you suck in English.

              ;)

            • 미국인밥탱 50.***.196.114

              저거 니가 한말들이야 병신아. 영어를 못하니 지놀리는줄도 몰라 이젠 ㅎㅎㅎ

            • US citizen 204.***.247.201

              Is your mama real mama?

              Are you a real person?

              How do I know you are not from other galaxy?

              Are you the person who you say you are, so you are sure about what you are saying when you say everything is not real but you think you know what you are talking about so that you can positively say your mama is in fact your mama and not a proxy agent who actually is trying to manipulate us so that they can destroy us, the hostile alien forces from other planet are coming soon, and that the final judgment day is around but you know you miss your mama not knowing your real mama is in fact a human breeding machine?

              Is that what you are trying to say?

              FUCKING HILARIOUS! hahahaha

            • uksl 91.***.81.202

              What a pathetic attention seeking dumbass!
              Go figure out your sexual orientation first. You are so gay to me! Gosh, talk that shit non stop! Blah blah blah blah /

      • US citizen 204.***.247.201

        Holy cow!

        Look! The Messiah is here!

        Hey Sir! What’s the best stock to buy today?

        Thank you!

        • 교포1.5세 23.***.26.52

          BRK.A

          가서 사라 똥파리야. 이번엔 내말 들어. 알간~?

          • US citizen 204.***.247.201

            Wow!

            Watch out your mouth sir!

            I thought you were the salvation from the harms of capitalism.

            A person of such caliber shouldn’t talk like that, don’t you think so?

            • 교포1.5세 50.***.196.114

              What did I do? 똥파리 is your nickname.

              “the salvation from the harms of capitalism.”

              크하하하하하! 졸 어색한 문장. 누가 저런표현 써.

              “You are a dumbo. And yes I am an American” – US citizen –

    • yer 184.***.133.101

      그나 저나 딕체이니 는 남의 심장받아다가 잘만 사는데….장기이식 기증해준사람에게 고맙다는 생각도 안든다고 그러더군요. 헐!

    • dlfjsqudtls 173.***.139.94

      원래 음모론 믿는 사람들 특징이 자기 부모가 진짜인지 헷갈리고 입양되었을지도 모른다고 생각하며 평생을 사는 사람들이다.

      집에가서 아버지가 진짜인지 함 확인부터 해봐라 병신들아.

      • 병신은바로너 50.***.196.114

        무조건 음모론자라고 바보취급하는 사람들의 특징은 평생 안읽고 읽어도 이해못하는 무지한 브레인들의 소유자라 말도안돼니 쓸데없는 소리하지말라고 목소리만 큰사람들이라죠. 그렇게 무식한티내지말고 읽고 공부해요. 그런후에도 결론이 이건말도안됀다라면 그때가서 얘기합시다.

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          I agree.

          You’ve read so many bullshit, to the point where your tiny brain is in total meltdown.

          You need to stop reading and try to be a fake intellect.

          Your brain just can’t handle so much data and complexity.

          You are just trying to be an important person by manipulating others.

          Sadly, you are not good at it at all.

          Sorry. :)

          • uksl 91.***.81.202

            Did you watch your much beloved president’s state of the union yesterday? All he says is ‘if you guys don’t approve it, that’s totally fine. I can use my own weapons(executive order) to get it’. WOW! He is so charismatic, you say. o/

            We are at risk of devolving into a dictatorship, you dumbass.
            WAKE THEFUCK UP!

            • US citizen 204.***.247.201

              ?

              Try again.

              However, I thought your line of effort was kinda good up the word ‘dictatorship’.

              Boy, gotta love this wackos.

            • 교포1.5세 50.***.196.114

              “…good up the word ‘dictatorship'”.

              Huh?

              “You are a dumbo. And yes I am an American” – US citizen –

    • US citizen 204.***.247.201

      It is so sad to see there are still people out there like you preaching ‘the final judgment day’, extremism, and ultimately destruction.

      However, below is an interesting characteristic of losers like you. Check it out.
      _____

      10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
      A useful guide by Donna Ferentes

      1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always “sheep”, patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.

      2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say “no thanks”, you’ll be called a “sheep” again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.

      3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they’re pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.

      4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero’s “cui bono?” (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle’s “once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth”. What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply “eliminate the impossible” (i.e. say the official account can’t stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on “cui bono?” (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.

      5. Inability to employ or understand Occam’s Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.

      6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have “open minds” and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.

      7. Inability to withdraw. It’s a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by “swamping” – piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.

      8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the “official” account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the “official” account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.

      9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it’s “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.

      10. It’s always a conspiracy. And it is, isn’t it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.

      A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.

      At the end of the day, there is one word that can describe people like you and kyoupo1.5…LOSERS!

      • ㅎㅎ 184.***.133.101

        미국인? 근무중? ㅋㅋ

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          Yeah man,

          Taking some break. XD

          • uksl 91.***.81.202

            uh huh? Have you EVER had a decent paying job?????
            neh I doubt that….

      • 미국인밥탱 50.***.196.114

        본인 얘기하는구먼 ㅎ

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          Q: How do you say a delusional person like you in Korean?

          A: byung-sin (bottle shoe).

          XD

          • 미국인밥탱 50.***.196.114

            그럼 넌 병신이네. 전혀몰랐던 새로운 사실이구나. 야 하지도못하는 영어가지고 게시판 도배하지말고 H마트가서 신라면이 얼마인지나 체크해봐. 나한테 알려줄 필요는 없고.

      • uksl 91.***.81.202

        Who the fuck is Donna Ferentes??????? Who fucking cares????
        Are you the person who can be easily influenced by ANYONE??????
        Get a life loser! o/

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          >>>Are you the person who can be easily influenced by ANYONE??????

          I thought that was the whole point we were trying to make here.

          Are you the Messiah who can influence common people by using conspiracy theories? Do you think we are stupid enough to believe whatever you throw at us?

          I don’t think so.

          So, what your line of joke here boy?

          • 교포1.5세 50.***.196.114

            누가 Messiah란 단어를 이렇게 써대. ㅎㅎㅎ 영어좀 제발 잘해봐 똥파리야. 미치겠다 웃겨서 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ

    • US citizen 204.***.247.201

      Oh, yeah.

      I am pretty sure the typhoon that hit the Philippines last year was the work of US government so the US military can exert more influence over the SE Asia by giving some aid to that country.

      It’s a perfect scenario for a viral video man.

      You know, just an idea so you get busy during the day while everyone else is busy with their day job. ;)

      • 미국인밥탱 50.***.196.114

        똥파리자식. ㅎㅎㅎ 정작 일도안하고 여기다가 장문의 글을 올리는놈은 지면서 오히려 일하는 사람들보고 모라하네. 꼭~ 지는 어떤지 몰라. 거울을 봐 똥파리야. 몇번을 얘기해야 고쳐. 영어도 못하는게.

        • US citizen 204.***.247.201

          It is time for you to take the ‘blue pill’.

          Wake up, Neo.

          • UScitizenStupid 50.***.196.114

            도대체 몇명이 Neo야. 헷갈리냐? 똥파리보단 낫다.

            “You are a dumbo! Yes I am American.” – US citizen-